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It’s a fairly straightforward plot with a lot of surprises up its sleeves. So I sort of created this movie to make myself happy again. So yeah, this movie in a lot of ways it’s very personal. Your first film was set in high school and now is a college grad who can’t find a gig and begrudgingly moves back in with his parents. Sure, there’s always that threat of having to move back to Virginia. The way I survived all the many humiliations of my 20s and all the dumb shit that I do is being able to write it into this movie. I quite frankly don’t know what I’d do without them. Not that I’m creating music, but I mean you can’t listen to an indie rock album or whatever and have there not be 800 influences on there. But still everyone is so caught off guard when you create something of a mash-up. If I see something like a shot of flowers growing, I’m fucking over it! I’m staring out the window again, dreaming of being outside.
I chatted with Bates about the film, his influences and the funk he was in when it was conceived. I was holed up in my room, quite frankly, just watching things that made my happy. Like, one day I can use this and make someone else feel not as bad. So that certainly kept me going through my 20s, I tell you.
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When I think of my ideal audience for and really any [other of my movies], I think of a middle school audience, because there are kids that need help. I'm really trying to make movies for teenagers, giving them that experience and possibly some sort of positive message about being themselves. When I interviewed Ray Wise, we talked about other supernatural horror comedies, and there are not that many out there. I think that the fans of that music − or of most music − want variety. I let [the actors] bring their own stuff to the table. I'm really confused because it's all I've ever done. I can only imagine how much fun it must have been to come up with it.
They have needs and desires, but they have no control over their lives. Wise said that Suburban Gothic was a horror comedy, but he also hinted that it was much more. For example, some of Ray's best stuff in this movie is improvised. When I first wrote that line, I was told I had to remove it, because it was too aggressive, and I said, "there is no way that's going to happen." The best thing when I got to make this movie is that I had final cut decision. I don't want to make an independent movie right now without final cut.
I had the opportunity to meet with Bates after the premiere to discuss I was very happy. I had to go outside and check it out, because I was having an anxiety attack. What I have to do − what I put a ton of work into − is keeping that vision the same throughout. I think film is going in this direction, and I think that most films, one day, will be like this, with a little influence from everything. I wouldn't say that doing it one way is better than doing it another way. The idea is just to have your heart on your sleeve, bring an authenticity, and be so genuine, pure and innocent about it. A dude jerking off made sense to me while being in middle school. The characters are larger than life, but you can still relate to every one of them. There are so many more things we can do with film that we haven't even tried yet. Whatever you want to call it, I guess it's a mash-up of other genres. It's easier for me to do darker material when I'm happy. If you enjoyed you would get a real kick out of a gag reel. It's my job to make it tight for pacing, but it kills you to cut scenes.
When you make independent films, you're not doing it for the money. The viewers enjoyed having the opportunity to mingle with you and the cast after the premiere and find out about the process of making which is a great thing about attending movie festivals. If you're going to work with a lot of genre, you have to keep the tone. There is no "better." It's what I like, and at the end of the day, all I can really do is make films that I would want to see. I just make them for myself, and I have to trust that there is a bunch of other people like me out there who will watch it; enough of them that I'll be able to have another one made. I didn't have a girlfriend going through middle school. They're all endearing in some way, even the father. So I really wanted everyone to be his or her own character. To some degree I made it because this is the kind of movie I wish we had when I was in high school. I don't think anything should just be about one thing. There are a lot of movies out there where a teenager interrupts his parents' intimacy. I have had a few meetings, but I've never been able to presale some scripts.